Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

[Srinu]

Hi All

Can anyone help us in understanding the Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates present in the Order Release Instructions in the Order Base.

Is Order Release performed both at the time of Pickup, from origin for Transportation, and at the time of Delivery, to Destination.

[AlejandroBarba]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi Srinu,

Those time windows come into place when planning a shipment that must have be picked up and delivered within the time windows set at the origin and destination.

These time windows work in conjunction with the field "HOLD AS LATE AS POSSIBLE" in the "Planning Parameter Set". In OTM 4.5 the default is set to False, meaning that the Order Release will be planned in order to meet the delivery time window at the first opportunity. When you set it to True, the order release is not planned to be picked up until the last moment but still making it on time to the destination. I would recommend picking the first approach if your priority is service but if your priority is reducing cost, pick the second approach.

Hope this helps,

Alejandro B.

[bob_romijn]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi,

THe dates you can give (they are optional) will be used in conjunction with the planning parameter as mentioned by Alejandro AND the date emphasis as set in the order release/order base.
If set to "BOTH" (default) OTM will always respect the dates given. There are a lot of combinations you can think of here:

- Only early and late delivery date: Order will be planned to respect the delivery dates and the pickup date will be adjusted likewise.

- Early pickup date and late delivery date is populated: The shipment built will leave at the early pickup date.

etc, etc.

If you have multiple rates and transit times in OTM, OTM will only select the cheapest rate which still can respect the dates to deliver it on time.

Hope this helps a bit.

Best regards,

Bob

[Srinu]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi BOB

THanks for your time and reply

I have got the answer of the Dates which is the first half but for the second half (Is Order Release performed both at the time of Pickup, from origin for Transportation, and at the time of Delivery, to Destination.) i wish to know its relevance to the Order Release i.e. how this fields if entered will impact the order release.

[bob_romijn]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi Srinu,

I hope this is the explanation you're looking for:

If you populate all dates (early, late, pickup and delivery) it will respect all dates.
Example:
Your pickup time window is telling you to pick it up at day 1 (early and late pickup date or on the same day but tim eis different).
You delivery time window is telling you to deliver from day 10 to day 12.
Your transit time is 3 days.

A shipment is build to start at day1 and will be delivered at day 10. Even that the transit time is shorter.
In this case you can still move around with the delivery date (via shipment actions) to day 11 or 12 without getting a warning of invalidness.

I have to say that this is the case with the "Date Emphasis" at BOTH.

Help says:

Date Emphasis governs how important the date sets are. The options are BOTH, SHIP, DELV, PAST, NONE.
Choose BOTH to look at the available dates and the delivery dates.
Choose SHIP to look at the available dates and set the delivery dates out to infinity.
Choose DELV to look at the delivery dates and consider the available dates to be now.

PAST is acting differently and can have "unexpected" results. Here you always want to have dates populated, otherwise your shipment will be built a year back.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

[oliver]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

"PAST" allows you to plan orders with a pickup/delivery window in the past, where past means before "now" (date&time).
Quite handy if you have to e.g. analyze how planing would have looked if you had all orders for the last couple of weeks together etc.

Rgds
Oliver

[jpsmin1]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hello,
I'm going to try and piggy back off of this thread. I'm having some issues with planning and dates. Basically, we've put a new site live that releases our orders for today and tomorrow. Previously it was only same day orders that were released for OTM to plan. What we had in place before them was to update the date emphasis to NONE for orders that were scheduled to ship on a certain day, but don't get shipped that day for some reason. Instead of backordering the order, they just let it sit in the database. The NONE was so it could plan with shipments on the day that it eventually does ship.
Our issue is they will also plan with shipments shipping the next day if there aren't any shipping today. They have to then go in and unassign it from that shipment and replan it by itself.

I'm wondering what I can do to accomplish this : I want orders that don't ship on their scheduled ship date to only be able to plan with orders shipping on today's date, not a date in the future.
I was hoping the "PAST" emphasis would accomplish this, but it doesn't seem like it is allowing it to plan with todays orders, it is stopping it from planning with future orders though.

Any help would be appreciated!

[isaaczrx]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hey everyone (first post, yeah yeah) i'm tagging onto this thread...

For our business the early/late pickup and early/late delivery situation is redundant and useless. I'm trying to understand if there is an easy way to get OTM to only populate one of each.

We're still on 6.2.8

any ideas?

[Manish Vishwakarma]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi,

Welcome to the world of OTM. Your requirement looks more on editing existing fields in OTM's Order Release page. If you do not want these fields to be seen whenever you open Order Release or what ever name you use, you need to do following below action items:

1. Search for Order Release Manager Layout (Public Domain). Navigation: Go to Config. and Admin. >> User Config. >> Manager Layout.
2. Copy that Manager Layout with a new name and save it (in the domain you requires it).
3. Open the newly created Manager Layout, click on the required fields you do not want (You will have an option of Edit/Delete).
4. Edit/Delete the required fields and save the Manager Layout.
5. Create a new Screen Set for Order Release by copying it from existing Public Domain (just you did for Manager Layout).
6. Once created the new Screen Set, attach the newly created Manager Layout to this new Screen Set.
7. Once above steps are done, Attached Screen Set to a Menu and subsequently that Menu to a User/User Role.

Thanks,
Manish.

[isaaczrx]

Re: Role of Early/Late Pickup Dates and the Early/Late Delivery Dates in Order Base

Hi,

Welcome to the world of OTM. Your requirement looks more on editing existing fields in OTM's Order Release page. If you do not want these fields to be seen whenever you open Order Release or what ever name you use, you need to do following below action items:

1. Search for Order Release Manager Layout (Public Domain). Navigation: Go to Config. and Admin. >> User Config. >> Manager Layout.
2. Copy that Manager Layout with a new name and save it (in the domain you requires it).
3. Open the newly created Manager Layout, click on the required fields you do not want (You will have an option of Edit/Delete).
4. Edit/Delete the required fields and save the Manager Layout.
5. Create a new Screen Set for Order Release by copying it from existing Public Domain (just you did for Manager Layout).
6. Once created the new Screen Set, attach the newly created Manager Layout to this new Screen Set.
7. Once above steps are done, Attached Screen Set to a Menu and subsequently that Menu to a User/User Role.

Thanks,
Manish.

Thanks, Manish

OTM allows for 2 of these fields to be blank and the order base will still to plan into a Shipment.

Somewhere along the line OTM seems to fill in the blanks to populate both the early/late pickup and delivery dates.


When my end users change the dates, they must change them in all four fields. I'm looking for ways for them to only change two dates instead of four.

Early Pickup Date
2016-06-01 00:00:00

Late Pickup Date
2016-06-01 23:58:58

Early Delivery Date
2016-06-03 00:00:00

Late Delivery Date
2016-06-03 23:58:58


seems like a wasteful mess?