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  • Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

    Hi Friends,

    As per our understanding, OTM 6.0supports MPS (Multi package shipment) rating via Kewill i.e. if order have 5 ship units, then Kewill flagship will rate each ship unit individually and apply some MPS discount on top of that, since all are going to same customer in one lot.
    There is some concept called "Over pack" parcel shipments - where carrier considers all 5 ship units as single wrapped ship unit and apply rates on that.
    Wanted to know if OTM6.0 supports Over pack Parcel rating via Kewill Flagship? Please let me know if this is possible. Thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    Anirban Roy

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    Re: Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

    A simple 'over pack' rate is certainly supported. It is just the outer container that is needed from a parcel rating standpoint. To rate a 50lb box, all you need is the weight/dimensions and where it's going to/from.

    However, 'over pack' is a designation that is usually used when there is a need to know what is in the internal, seperate containers. This may or may not affect the rating. The requirements could be from another commercial entity (e.g. a retailer wanting to know the SKU's or other details of the inner containers) generally that will not affect the ability to 'rate' or - and this is the use case I am most familiar with; 'over pack' is a specific term used when shipping dangerous goods - depending on the agency responsible for the DG compliance (CFR-49, IATA, ADR, etc.) you will need to provide specific data about the contents.
    FedEx, as just one example - will return different rates depending on the DG classification (specifically it determines if it is Cargo Aircraft Only, or what it refers to as 'inaccssible Dangerous Goods'). Given all of the required data elements, or using the DG database provided in the Kewill product, these rate calls are also supported.

    To stick with the last example - FedEx Express follows the IATA regulations and overpack rules can be found in section 5.0.1.5
    Last edited by kewill_maven; November 18, 2009, 12:40. Reason: Added IATA reference/section

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    • #3
      Re: Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

      Hi,

      Thanks a lot for your response. I have a few more questions.
      How does Kewill handle “Overpack” rating ? Does it return different rate in below 2 scenarios
      1. 10 units each of 10LB
      2. 10 units each of 10LB – designated as “Overpack”

      If this is true, then any idea how we configure this in OTM to achieve this?

      Note
      One order release with 10 ship units in OTM.
      Thanks in advance.

      Regards,
      Anirban Roy

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      • #4
        Re: Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

        Related question...hoping to clarify the original question and get new responses.

        In this case, I'd agree to the original definition of "over packing" as taking multiple parcels and rating them via Kewill as a single package.

        The operational translation is putting several cartons in a box going to the same customer (overpacking them) to save $$ on parcel shipments, rather than shipping each separately.

        The question is...how can you get Kewill to take several orders, all going to the same customer, consolidate them, and treat that as a single package for rating?

        As I understand it, it rates each ship unit (i.e., carton) individually, regardless of number of ship units per order or bundling of orders.

        Thanks.
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        Greg Burns
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        • #5
          Re: Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

          The quick answer is that you can not.
          Flagship by itself is a compliance engine that will rate the package or packages you send it. If you send it a rate request and there are 5 boxes, it will rate the 5 boxes.
          With that said, compliance varies by carrier and by country, and with some carriers (UPS Canada, Exports for instance) the total aggregate wieght of all 5 boxes will be used and it really didn't matter that they were in 5 containers. That is not true for UPS from USA origins, and the box count will affect your rate.

          Generally for the scenario you described, something sits in front of Flagship to do the consolidation into the final shipping container, and it's that final container that is used in the request to the compliance engine. Kewill, for instance, has a packing front end that pulls in orders. The orders are then put into boxes, those boxes can be put into other containers, and those again can be put into pallets or larger containers, etc.. Flagship is a black box behind the packing application and generates rates, labels, bills of lading, etc.. when it receives a request to do so from the other application - the other application, however, is building the contents of the shipping container, not Flagship.

          We can create business rules on the Flagship side to do what you describe, but it would require a flag, or user defined field to be sent to us to initiate the consolidation - this would need to be quoted by the Kewill field engineer assigned to whatever project you are working on.

          Regards,

          Peter (aka Kewill Maven)
          Last edited by kewill_maven; July 16, 2010, 14:26.

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          • #6
            Re: Rating via Kewill in OTM 6.0

            Thanks Peter, great information.
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            Greg Burns
            [email protected]

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